I found this on PZ Myers blog, Pharyngula. I'd say that when the Klan
disassociates itself from you, your group, or your message, you have
truly found the bottom of the dungheap.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/they_get_no_respect.php
Everyone knows that this church and it's attendees are complete trash
and wastes of oxygen, but wow! The Klan actually has higher standards
and practises!
Friday, April 9, 2010
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
i suck at blogging
I keep trying to write in my blog and end up writing in everyone elses. After I spend so much time formulating and using arguments, I'd like to regurgitate them here but I have no evidence that anyone has ever even seen this site. If you see my writing, whether or not you agree, please speak! Let me know! Converse!
Remember that we need not agree, discussion is enough, even if it's written.
Remember that we need not agree, discussion is enough, even if it's written.
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
Saturday, December 26, 2009
I am interested.
Everything intrigues me. From the method of molecules to combine, to the vastest expanses of space; I am interested. Biology, chemistry, geology, genetics, water tables, the aborigines of Australia, the composition of asteroids, tidal flows, diamond distribution, human rights, Shakespearean tragedies, the breeding habits of piranha; all of this I will study and learn.
My wife asked me why I need so many textbooks. "You aren't even taking these courses!" She says.
"But there is so damn much I don't know yet!" This is the only reply that I can give.
I wish I could share this enthusiasm with everyone, and I will indeed try, even if only with one person at a time. The other night I was talking with my wife about a scientist with a theory regarding black holes and the possibility of them jump-starting new universes with the singularities that form inside of them. As I explained some of the prevailing theories and the physics behind them, I felt myself becoming flushed with excitement. This is life! Discussion, learning, theory, application of intellect; these concepts are the best of human capability and what every human should be pursuing. There are people that refuse to allow you the option to learn and grow, however.
Whenever I see a perfectly good mind wasted on religion, I feel a deep and abiding sadness. These people voluntarily surrender their intellectual capacity; nothing is more anathema to investigation and learning than the idea "I already know what I'm supposed to know." The established religions know this and have throughout recorded history insured an ignorant and enslaved membership primarily through demonising knowledge and those that pursue it, while simultaneously creating all sorts of "hells" and "eternal punishments" that a person will enter if they violate dogma. The whole of the dark ages was held forcefully back from innovation in medicine, culture, mechanics, science, etc., the most common method of enforcement being the murder of the intelligent or those who associated with them. Sadly, there is a rise in these ignorant and disgusting theists that seek to keep others in the dark. Many point to Islam as the example when I say this, and yet American fundamentalist Christians are equally bad. There is a group -not exactly a group as each faction has them, but yet similar in stupidity- that is referred to as creationists. the most despicable of these being the "young earth" variety. I despair my children ever knowing scientific curiosity outside the home if these people get their wish to replace science textbooks with the superstitions of bronze age goat herders.
Almost as bad, are the segments of society that treat intelligence as weak or unwanted in their members. The current wannabe "thugs" and gang member cultures are a prime example. Constantly they decry racism, sexism, social status, income limits, etc. as things unfairly imposed upon them. And yet, whenever a member of their group shows intelligence or a leaning toward a higher education, they are verbally and physically abused and punished for daring to make the others in the group appear stupid. This creates a situation in which the oppressed oppress themselves; where it is indeed a slavery, but a slavery of the mind and a self imposed one at that.
Both of these groups have the same root cause: a powerful few knowing full well that an educated group of people will not remain subservient to the corrupt leadership that those in power wish to maintain. The social and racial component are being oppressed in reality, just not in the manner they believe. Politicians of both sides in the political divide here in America profit from the "lower classes" remaining flat stupid; the democrats most of all. This last year, the Obama administration used tax money to make sure that television converter boxes are available to people in the middle and lower classes. Not only is this an absolute waste of money by the federal government (especially considering how cheap the boxes were to begin with and how expensive after counting the "administrators" of the program), it actively insures an ignorant populace. Nothing is more stunting to the intellect than sitting for hours each day staring at a box that provides the least information possible packed into 2.5 minute segments... when the people even bother to watch an informative program which is rare in these days of "Bachelors", "Survivors", "Simpsons", and Oprah.
There is little hope that people will throw off their shackles, as the "need" for these shackles is pounded into us from infancy. There are only two important actions that I see being successful, even showing immediate results. The first is to turn off your televisions and get moving, into anything. discover interests by actually doing and you have the ability to mentor and spark a child's interest by doing. Activity is an extremely important factor in education and gaining knowledge, a factor that all too many people never learn about growing up with a television as a baby sitter.
The second is also easy and is an equally crucial step that every thinking non-zombieist (and even most zombieists) needs to undertake immediately: vote against superstition being taught anywhere but a mythology/theology course! It doesn't even matter if you happen to be a theist, you MUST oppose the attempts to add any religion to any class in school other than those specifically designed for teaching/comparing mythology and religion. If you are shortsighted enough to want your own religion taught in school, please realise that it won't be the only creation myth taught and that eventually your children will lose any hope of learning the basic mechanics of maintaining our society. They will be far too busy learning about how wrong every other group is to understand even basic mathematical and scientific concepts, which by the way is close to the current state of America.
Hopefully more people will take both actions and this country and world will move forward, out of the new dark ages that so many politicians and creationists hope to force upon us. Even the simplest and most devout followers of either group can make a difference, just ask "how" once in a while.
My wife asked me why I need so many textbooks. "You aren't even taking these courses!" She says.
"But there is so damn much I don't know yet!" This is the only reply that I can give.
I wish I could share this enthusiasm with everyone, and I will indeed try, even if only with one person at a time. The other night I was talking with my wife about a scientist with a theory regarding black holes and the possibility of them jump-starting new universes with the singularities that form inside of them. As I explained some of the prevailing theories and the physics behind them, I felt myself becoming flushed with excitement. This is life! Discussion, learning, theory, application of intellect; these concepts are the best of human capability and what every human should be pursuing. There are people that refuse to allow you the option to learn and grow, however.
Whenever I see a perfectly good mind wasted on religion, I feel a deep and abiding sadness. These people voluntarily surrender their intellectual capacity; nothing is more anathema to investigation and learning than the idea "I already know what I'm supposed to know." The established religions know this and have throughout recorded history insured an ignorant and enslaved membership primarily through demonising knowledge and those that pursue it, while simultaneously creating all sorts of "hells" and "eternal punishments" that a person will enter if they violate dogma. The whole of the dark ages was held forcefully back from innovation in medicine, culture, mechanics, science, etc., the most common method of enforcement being the murder of the intelligent or those who associated with them. Sadly, there is a rise in these ignorant and disgusting theists that seek to keep others in the dark. Many point to Islam as the example when I say this, and yet American fundamentalist Christians are equally bad. There is a group -not exactly a group as each faction has them, but yet similar in stupidity- that is referred to as creationists. the most despicable of these being the "young earth" variety. I despair my children ever knowing scientific curiosity outside the home if these people get their wish to replace science textbooks with the superstitions of bronze age goat herders.
Almost as bad, are the segments of society that treat intelligence as weak or unwanted in their members. The current wannabe "thugs" and gang member cultures are a prime example. Constantly they decry racism, sexism, social status, income limits, etc. as things unfairly imposed upon them. And yet, whenever a member of their group shows intelligence or a leaning toward a higher education, they are verbally and physically abused and punished for daring to make the others in the group appear stupid. This creates a situation in which the oppressed oppress themselves; where it is indeed a slavery, but a slavery of the mind and a self imposed one at that.
Both of these groups have the same root cause: a powerful few knowing full well that an educated group of people will not remain subservient to the corrupt leadership that those in power wish to maintain. The social and racial component are being oppressed in reality, just not in the manner they believe. Politicians of both sides in the political divide here in America profit from the "lower classes" remaining flat stupid; the democrats most of all. This last year, the Obama administration used tax money to make sure that television converter boxes are available to people in the middle and lower classes. Not only is this an absolute waste of money by the federal government (especially considering how cheap the boxes were to begin with and how expensive after counting the "administrators" of the program), it actively insures an ignorant populace. Nothing is more stunting to the intellect than sitting for hours each day staring at a box that provides the least information possible packed into 2.5 minute segments... when the people even bother to watch an informative program which is rare in these days of "Bachelors", "Survivors", "Simpsons", and Oprah.
There is little hope that people will throw off their shackles, as the "need" for these shackles is pounded into us from infancy. There are only two important actions that I see being successful, even showing immediate results. The first is to turn off your televisions and get moving, into anything. discover interests by actually doing and you have the ability to mentor and spark a child's interest by doing. Activity is an extremely important factor in education and gaining knowledge, a factor that all too many people never learn about growing up with a television as a baby sitter.
The second is also easy and is an equally crucial step that every thinking non-zombieist (and even most zombieists) needs to undertake immediately: vote against superstition being taught anywhere but a mythology/theology course! It doesn't even matter if you happen to be a theist, you MUST oppose the attempts to add any religion to any class in school other than those specifically designed for teaching/comparing mythology and religion. If you are shortsighted enough to want your own religion taught in school, please realise that it won't be the only creation myth taught and that eventually your children will lose any hope of learning the basic mechanics of maintaining our society. They will be far too busy learning about how wrong every other group is to understand even basic mathematical and scientific concepts, which by the way is close to the current state of America.
Hopefully more people will take both actions and this country and world will move forward, out of the new dark ages that so many politicians and creationists hope to force upon us. Even the simplest and most devout followers of either group can make a difference, just ask "how" once in a while.
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
4 cops dead
On Sunday morning, when most of us are getting our coffee and preparing to watch an NFL pregame show, 4 officers of the law were executed by a rapist...ooops...excuse my horrible and evil language...ummmm...sex offender... ummm ya....
anyway, he was out of jail on bail.
Three men and a woman were murdered in cold blood, an assault that was very clearly planned out.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cops_shot_dead_in_washington_coffee_J4ZcZQdFW5dY71TqX7ldWM
This fashion of crime was committed a month ago, almost to the day, in Seattle. On Halloween night a gang-banger walked up to a police car containing two officers who were in the process of protecting our children on a night when all too many are injured or killed out of pure negligence on the part of drivers. It has been shown, year after year and decade after decade, that having a marked vehicle with REAL officers has a decided difference in injury and mortality rates at times and on dates when children or pedestrians are especially at risk. Both officers in the car were shot and the male, veteran officer was a victim of murder. I, and everyone i know, are thankful that the passenger and junior officer survived with little more than uncomfortable wounds.
The truly terrible consequence of these acts are not the deaths and woundings, however. The extremely disheartening fact is that, as more and more law enforcement professionals are feeling separated from the community that expects them to magically appear seconds after requesting help, these disgusting murderers make sure that officers of the law can NOT be at ease in public. I'm not a fan of cops, and I haven't been for decades. But the most important aspect of city life -even the L.A. gangs know this- we must allow the cops to walk freely and comfortably among all of society. They may be an enemy to drug users/pushers, whores/pimps, homeless/hitchhikers, poor/minority; but there are times where anyone should feel able to approach them with problems and/or questions.
The only lasting legacy that these disgusting murderers leave is that the nation responsible for allowing freedom of assembly and speech, will allow less assembly and speech. The nation that encouraged officers to dine and socialise with "civilians", will no longer be known for such actions. Millions of Americans eat at restaurants frequented by cops...expect to be observed if not made uncomfortable. At bars frequented by cops... expect to be held up for every insult, regardless how minor and unintended.
I have respect for some officers and know they won't change, but all too many are now going to view each and every civilian as a potential murderer/target.Everyone needs to be extremely vocal in their support for local law enforcement. Even people that have had bad experiences or engage in illegal activities need to be telling cops how much they are needed; whether or not you like cops in general, they are necessary for your own comfort and enterprise.
anyway, he was out of jail on bail.
Three men and a woman were murdered in cold blood, an assault that was very clearly planned out.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cops_shot_dead_in_washington_coffee_J4ZcZQdFW5dY71TqX7ldWM
This fashion of crime was committed a month ago, almost to the day, in Seattle. On Halloween night a gang-banger walked up to a police car containing two officers who were in the process of protecting our children on a night when all too many are injured or killed out of pure negligence on the part of drivers. It has been shown, year after year and decade after decade, that having a marked vehicle with REAL officers has a decided difference in injury and mortality rates at times and on dates when children or pedestrians are especially at risk. Both officers in the car were shot and the male, veteran officer was a victim of murder. I, and everyone i know, are thankful that the passenger and junior officer survived with little more than uncomfortable wounds.
The truly terrible consequence of these acts are not the deaths and woundings, however. The extremely disheartening fact is that, as more and more law enforcement professionals are feeling separated from the community that expects them to magically appear seconds after requesting help, these disgusting murderers make sure that officers of the law can NOT be at ease in public. I'm not a fan of cops, and I haven't been for decades. But the most important aspect of city life -even the L.A. gangs know this- we must allow the cops to walk freely and comfortably among all of society. They may be an enemy to drug users/pushers, whores/pimps, homeless/hitchhikers, poor/minority; but there are times where anyone should feel able to approach them with problems and/or questions.
The only lasting legacy that these disgusting murderers leave is that the nation responsible for allowing freedom of assembly and speech, will allow less assembly and speech. The nation that encouraged officers to dine and socialise with "civilians", will no longer be known for such actions. Millions of Americans eat at restaurants frequented by cops...expect to be observed if not made uncomfortable. At bars frequented by cops... expect to be held up for every insult, regardless how minor and unintended.
I have respect for some officers and know they won't change, but all too many are now going to view each and every civilian as a potential murderer/target.Everyone needs to be extremely vocal in their support for local law enforcement. Even people that have had bad experiences or engage in illegal activities need to be telling cops how much they are needed; whether or not you like cops in general, they are necessary for your own comfort and enterprise.
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Returning to blogs and discussion(again)
I have taken a few months break from writing and discussing on the internet. This is mostly due to a very abrupt and severe experience on a discussion group that taught me, VERY CLEARLY, that a person may call himself a free thinker, but be nowhere near the reality of free-thinking.
The discussion was on race and whether or not a person can be "proud" of their heritage and/or race without being racist. I take the opinion that one can, of course, be proud of anything they wish, without demeaning or looking badly on others that differ. This is not to say that some people can't, as evidenced by those that I once respected.
As a person that has never seen the slightest shred of evidence for gods and a person that has come to loathe the effect that religion has on people, I had thought that most people who think like i do can make arguments apart from fallacy. WOW, was I wrong!
In fact, the atheists and "free-thinkers" I once thought pretty well of, could only fall into the same bullshit, fallacy-filled arguments that theists resort to.
1) Special pleading fallacy: Where theists say in response to any argument about reality or physical law " god doesn't need to follow that cause he's different" or in response to creation when they say "The universe can't start itself, someone(god) must have caused it" and you respond "what then, caused god?" special pleading rears it's ugly head, "well, god's different and he doesn't need to follow those rules."
The same argument was raised by the atheists I once respected. I gave, literally, dozens of examples of preferences for taste, attraction, thought, and ice cream. Each time I showed that no matter how much a person was proud of, enjoyed, or preferred any certain thing, it did not follow that the person looked down on others of the type or category. Special pleading then took over with the argument "Well it's ok in all of those other aspects of life, just not race or country!"
2) Straw man fallacy: Where theists say in response to ANY argument from an atheist or free-thinker, " oh ya... well Hitler and Stalin said that and then killed millions of Jews, You must be a Jew-hater and mass murderer!"
Sadly, the people that I once held in esteem couldn't even get this much correct. They claimed I was racist and equated me with Hitler, yes, all based on their own opinion of what a dictionary REALLY meant(their definition and the dictionary definition didn't even agree). This somewhat follows with straw man fallacies, but they went too far and actually attributed their own words for mine. As far as I know, a straw man can not be created when your own words are used as the ammunition used against others. I.E.: Hitler could not say "well you want to kill millions of Jews!" as a trump argument. Being that he DID it and SAID it, it would be invalid in that sense or use. Since the only people stupid enough to equate a person's paint job with their race was on the other side of the argument, I felt -and feel- no need to argue against anything further along that line. Very simply: excess melanin is an indicator of race ONLY when joined with numerous other genetic markers. As i stated then, an Ethiopian has nothing genetically in common with a New Guinea pygmy other than melanin, and therefore are not racially similar. Sadly none of the morons I used to associate with can figure out so simple a concept.
3) Fallacy of Accident: "Because the only other white person I ever heard of being proud of their race was a racist, you are a racist." Yes, this was said. I have a child of mixed race. I have a family of mixed race. I ,quite literally, have 3 nationalities and 7 races represented in my family. I love and esteem them all and I refuse to argue this point any further than that. It does tend to paint a picture of the accusers however. How sad one must feel to be a member of their families if one isn't a carbon copy of them...
4) My absolute favourite fallacy during the moronic readings I endured during this time, some months ago, was Special Pleading to Authority.
One of the most frustrating arguments that an atheist or free-thinker must endure is: "Uh-hunh, the bible says so." or "My pastor said..." or "But according to the pope..." this is Special Pleading(Authority). Not only could the so-called free-thinker not get this right, it is after all the absolute bottom of the barrel in arguing, he used a non-authority. My argument: "I'm descended from Scots and have a pride in my forebears and the accomplishments of Scots." His argument... and no, I'm not kidding... "Oh ya? well i know a Scottish guy and he said you aren't one!!" really now? c'mon...that's an argument? Some guy who doesn't know me, my heritage, my family, my travels, my education, my research, etc., said I'm not? Oh, how can I ever reconcile my terrible misconceptions with this person's reality? Especially since such an awesome and erstwhile judge of all things Scot has decided that people he has never met, never will meet, and has no information on, are or are not whatever he decides...
Well, This should make clear my point. I will endeavor to post more often and i apologise for being absent to those of you who mailed me.
The discussion was on race and whether or not a person can be "proud" of their heritage and/or race without being racist. I take the opinion that one can, of course, be proud of anything they wish, without demeaning or looking badly on others that differ. This is not to say that some people can't, as evidenced by those that I once respected.
As a person that has never seen the slightest shred of evidence for gods and a person that has come to loathe the effect that religion has on people, I had thought that most people who think like i do can make arguments apart from fallacy. WOW, was I wrong!
In fact, the atheists and "free-thinkers" I once thought pretty well of, could only fall into the same bullshit, fallacy-filled arguments that theists resort to.
1) Special pleading fallacy: Where theists say in response to any argument about reality or physical law " god doesn't need to follow that cause he's different" or in response to creation when they say "The universe can't start itself, someone(god) must have caused it" and you respond "what then, caused god?" special pleading rears it's ugly head, "well, god's different and he doesn't need to follow those rules."
The same argument was raised by the atheists I once respected. I gave, literally, dozens of examples of preferences for taste, attraction, thought, and ice cream. Each time I showed that no matter how much a person was proud of, enjoyed, or preferred any certain thing, it did not follow that the person looked down on others of the type or category. Special pleading then took over with the argument "Well it's ok in all of those other aspects of life, just not race or country!"
2) Straw man fallacy: Where theists say in response to ANY argument from an atheist or free-thinker, " oh ya... well Hitler and Stalin said that and then killed millions of Jews, You must be a Jew-hater and mass murderer!"
Sadly, the people that I once held in esteem couldn't even get this much correct. They claimed I was racist and equated me with Hitler, yes, all based on their own opinion of what a dictionary REALLY meant(their definition and the dictionary definition didn't even agree). This somewhat follows with straw man fallacies, but they went too far and actually attributed their own words for mine. As far as I know, a straw man can not be created when your own words are used as the ammunition used against others. I.E.: Hitler could not say "well you want to kill millions of Jews!" as a trump argument. Being that he DID it and SAID it, it would be invalid in that sense or use. Since the only people stupid enough to equate a person's paint job with their race was on the other side of the argument, I felt -and feel- no need to argue against anything further along that line. Very simply: excess melanin is an indicator of race ONLY when joined with numerous other genetic markers. As i stated then, an Ethiopian has nothing genetically in common with a New Guinea pygmy other than melanin, and therefore are not racially similar. Sadly none of the morons I used to associate with can figure out so simple a concept.
3) Fallacy of Accident: "Because the only other white person I ever heard of being proud of their race was a racist, you are a racist." Yes, this was said. I have a child of mixed race. I have a family of mixed race. I ,quite literally, have 3 nationalities and 7 races represented in my family. I love and esteem them all and I refuse to argue this point any further than that. It does tend to paint a picture of the accusers however. How sad one must feel to be a member of their families if one isn't a carbon copy of them...
4) My absolute favourite fallacy during the moronic readings I endured during this time, some months ago, was Special Pleading to Authority.
One of the most frustrating arguments that an atheist or free-thinker must endure is: "Uh-hunh, the bible says so." or "My pastor said..." or "But according to the pope..." this is Special Pleading(Authority). Not only could the so-called free-thinker not get this right, it is after all the absolute bottom of the barrel in arguing, he used a non-authority. My argument: "I'm descended from Scots and have a pride in my forebears and the accomplishments of Scots." His argument... and no, I'm not kidding... "Oh ya? well i know a Scottish guy and he said you aren't one!!" really now? c'mon...that's an argument? Some guy who doesn't know me, my heritage, my family, my travels, my education, my research, etc., said I'm not? Oh, how can I ever reconcile my terrible misconceptions with this person's reality? Especially since such an awesome and erstwhile judge of all things Scot has decided that people he has never met, never will meet, and has no information on, are or are not whatever he decides...
Well, This should make clear my point. I will endeavor to post more often and i apologise for being absent to those of you who mailed me.
Saturday, May 23, 2009
sickness and prayer
a family teaches their children that prayer can cure. well, ok. lying
to kids is not a crime. a child in the family gets ill with cancer.
the church and family members all support a refusal of medical
treatment in favour of "healing" prayer. not ok anymore. willfully
preventing a minor from life-saving medical treatment is a crime or
should be. my solution to this disgusting idiocy is simple: no adult
from the family or congregation is allowed medical care....ever. if
there is a car wreck and someone's arm is laying on the ground 12 ft
away, they get no bandages or blood. they can afterall receive the
"healing" from prayer.
what?... it doesn't work that way?... but apparently it does... if
it's not visible. the cancer that eats away at the child is killing
him as surely as losing ones blood to violence. just as not every
gunshot, car wreck, stabbing, etc. wound can be healed or the person
saved, not every victim of cancer can be saved; but at least most have
the chance. to have the chance removed, and be told there is a god who
will help, is so unbelievably wrong that this punishment should be
enforced strictly.
there are some that say: but wait! i know a guy who knows a guy that
prayed and got better! sadly this argument is just not correct. for
every case of spontaneous remission that was supposedly the result of
positivity and prayer, there is a case wherein the person was
negative, distraught, and overwhelmingly pessimistic, yet still was
cured. the reason for this is simple: it isn't based on which goat-
herding, flat-earther philosophy you follow.
this woman has kidnapped her son and ran off to mexico. she will
presumably follow some "homoeopathic" remedy and her son will die. she
and other theists will then begin screaming about how it's the judges
fault for making her run to mexico, and the stress, and some other
nonsense as to why her son died. after all, it simply can't be because
there is no god that answers prayers(or any other god).
my final problem is this: if you think prayer helps....do it during
treatment. i'm fairly certain that a loving god would want to see
parents doing everything possible for their kids. i simply don't see
how someone would want to worship a god that sits and says" ok the
cancer is spreading. pray people! what!! an outrage!! how dare you
attempt to preserve a life i feel should be cancer ridden!!" then
again, reading the bible... i can see a god concept doing that quite
often.
to kids is not a crime. a child in the family gets ill with cancer.
the church and family members all support a refusal of medical
treatment in favour of "healing" prayer. not ok anymore. willfully
preventing a minor from life-saving medical treatment is a crime or
should be. my solution to this disgusting idiocy is simple: no adult
from the family or congregation is allowed medical care....ever. if
there is a car wreck and someone's arm is laying on the ground 12 ft
away, they get no bandages or blood. they can afterall receive the
"healing" from prayer.
what?... it doesn't work that way?... but apparently it does... if
it's not visible. the cancer that eats away at the child is killing
him as surely as losing ones blood to violence. just as not every
gunshot, car wreck, stabbing, etc. wound can be healed or the person
saved, not every victim of cancer can be saved; but at least most have
the chance. to have the chance removed, and be told there is a god who
will help, is so unbelievably wrong that this punishment should be
enforced strictly.
there are some that say: but wait! i know a guy who knows a guy that
prayed and got better! sadly this argument is just not correct. for
every case of spontaneous remission that was supposedly the result of
positivity and prayer, there is a case wherein the person was
negative, distraught, and overwhelmingly pessimistic, yet still was
cured. the reason for this is simple: it isn't based on which goat-
herding, flat-earther philosophy you follow.
this woman has kidnapped her son and ran off to mexico. she will
presumably follow some "homoeopathic" remedy and her son will die. she
and other theists will then begin screaming about how it's the judges
fault for making her run to mexico, and the stress, and some other
nonsense as to why her son died. after all, it simply can't be because
there is no god that answers prayers(or any other god).
my final problem is this: if you think prayer helps....do it during
treatment. i'm fairly certain that a loving god would want to see
parents doing everything possible for their kids. i simply don't see
how someone would want to worship a god that sits and says" ok the
cancer is spreading. pray people! what!! an outrage!! how dare you
attempt to preserve a life i feel should be cancer ridden!!" then
again, reading the bible... i can see a god concept doing that quite
often.
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